All citizens should be able to tell the difference between the good guys and the bad.
I don’t know about you, but sometimes I have a really hard time distinguishing between the good guys and who and the bad guys are. Some police will openly admit to wrong doing in books that they have had published. Mark Fuhrman talked about racism being very real in his department, and even bragged about torturing, beating and framing suspects. Cops across the entire United States have murdered people, pull armed robberies, raped young girls, sold drugs, stolen drug money, accepted bribes and falsified evidence against criminal defendants, all while in a uniform. They say that there is only a handful of cops that go bad, but still people continue to be weary of all law enforcement.
The reported number of bad cops is on the rise. In Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, State Trooper Richard S. Keener was charged with sexual assault and rape. Two NYPD sergeants and a detective were arrested Friday on drug-related corruption charges, federal and local authorities said. Two New York City police detectives, now retired, have been charged with participating in or attempting to commit eleven murders. At least five of those crimes, and a host of others, allegedly occurred during their tenure as police officers. A few years ago a police officer from NYC was arrested for sexually brutalizing a Haitian with a toilet plunger while the man was being held in custody. A two-time Mexico City policeman of the year, was arrested on suspicion of extorting money from illegal car-watchers. A veteran Los Angeles Police Department officer was arrested for assaulting a handcuffed 16-year-old in a police holding room. Three Boston police officers were arrested on federal charges of criminal activities such as dealing in stolen goods, stealing people’s identities, and stealing store gift cards. This list goes on and on.
Everyday across the county something can be found on TV or online, about an officer going bad. Yet we as citizens are told by law enforcement that there is only a few cops that have gone bad. But history states otherwise, there is continual corruption, racism, and abuse of power in every rank and has continued unabated since the 1840’s.
There are some states like Oklahoma, who are among the most arrest-happy departments in the country. Instead of sending a drunk home they insist on locking them down. They should really try to overlook certain minor violations and try to seek to keep the streets calm without resorting to locking everyone down. They need to be told and fully understand that the cops are not engaged in a war.
Real reform is possible only when that value system changes and cops come to realize that they must police themselves. A bad cop will only abstain from misconduct when he/she looks at the cop next to them and believes that their partner will not hesitate to turn he/she in for misconduct. They need to offer some type of incentive to get these officers to break the ‘wall of silence’ and report a bad cop. They must understand that this ‘wall of silence’ is what is allowing bad cops to flourish. Good cops should not be punished because they try to expose a bad cop. This will show to the public that they can trust the police to police themselves.
Friday, February 29, 2008
Thursday, February 28, 2008
Trooper Richard Keener Arrested for Rape & Sexual Assault of Minor
HARRISBURG A Pennsylvania State Trooper, who was stationed at the State Police Lamar Barracks in Clinton County, has been charged with rape and sexual assault.
Attorney General Tom Corbett identified the defendant as Richard S. Keener, 39, of Marble Lane, Bellefonte, Centre County. Corbett said that the Attorney General's investigation was launched based on a conflict of interest referral by the Clinton County District Attorney's Office.
According to the criminal complaint, Keener met the victim and her friend at a Lock Haven tavern on May 16, 2006. Keener allegedly consumed a significant amount of alcohol and asked the victim about seeing "naked girls," which she responded "no, I'm not doing that.
"The charges state that around 1:30 a.m. on May 17, 2006, Keener accompanied the victim and her friend back to her apartment after leaving the tavern. Keener allegedly followed the victim into her bedroom, shut the door, forcibly grabbed her by the neck and threw her onto the bed.
According to the criminal complaint, the victim attempted to kick Keener to make him stop, but was unable to overpower him. Keener allegedly squeezed her throat each time she tried to scream and forcibly removed her jeans and underwear while holding her down on the bed.
Corbett said that Keener allegedly bit the victim multiple times on her neck, breast, lower abdomen, inner thigh and on both shoulders.According to the criminal complaint, the victim kicked her legs and shook her head back and forth negatively, but Keener continued to bite her and allegedly proceeded to expose himself without removing his pants and forcibly had vaginal intercourse with her.
Corbett explained that Keener was about eight inches taller and 130 pounds heavier than the victim, making it difficult to counter his attack.Corbett said that Keener left to use the bathroom and the victim ran into the living room and immediately told her friend what had just happened.
Keener allegedly returned and stayed in the living room for a brief time before leaving the apartment around 3:00 a.m.The charges state that the victim became distraught and panicked after Keener left and was taken to a local hospital to be treated.
Photographs taken during a sexual assault examination showed evident bite marks on her body.Keener is charged with two counts of indecent assault and one count each of rape and sexual assault. He was preliminarily arraigned before Centre County Magisterial District Judge Thomas Jordan and released on $25,000 unsecured bail. A preliminary hearing will be scheduled at a later date. Corbett thanked the Lock Haven City Police Department for their assistance with the case.
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I never did like this jackass when he was on Coplounge.com. Now come to find out he's been lying to them all this time. Goes to show you never really know who you are talking too.
Hope he rots in hell for what he has done. Sick Fuck!!!
No traces of steroids in four Sand Springs police officers
Drug tests at an independent lab have found no traces of steroids in four Sand Springs police officers, police said Thursday. Police administrators released the results of the tests to the Leader.
Blood and urine samples were tested for four officers who were under suspicion of using steroids. All test results from a St. Francis Hospital testing lab found no traces of anabolic steroids. There will be no discipline associated with the use of steroids as a result of this investigation, police administrators said.Sand Springs Police Chief Daniel Bradley said the testing came about as a result of a rumor that another officer brought to his attention. Police conducted further investigation into the matter, Bradley said. As a result, four officers were ordered to take the drug tests. The officers were escorted directly to the laboratory from Bradley's office, he said.All four went "cooperatively," Bradley said.One officer was placed on non-disciplinary paid suspension until results were returned, and the other three were allowed to continue their duties.
Bradley said the one officer was placed on suspension because of the sensitive drug-related nature of his work. The other three could be directly supervised more easily.There had been no behavioral complaints on any of the officers, Bradley said, which was another reason they were allowed to stay on duty while testing was carried out.Results from the lab tests came in on Monday, said Assistant Police Chief Mike Carter.
Traces of steroids would have remained in the system for 36 months, Carter said.Bradley said the experience was trying and emotional, and it "tested the integrity" of the department. "This wasn't easy for those who got accused," he said."I'm very proud of our officers," Bradley said. He said all the officers were cooperative with the tests, and the local Fraternal Order of Police lodge was cooperative."Our guys stepped up and said 'let's get this taken care of,'" Carter said.Bradley said he is confident there is not a steroid problem in the department. But as a result of the exderience, drug testing policies at the department will change, Bradley said. Random drug testing of officers will take place yearly. Currently, it is done under suspicion, Bradley said. A segment of officers will be tested yearly for steroids, he added. It is cost prohibitive to test all officers yearly, Bradley said. This round of testing cost $550 per officer.
More of the story...
The test results are in. And, they're negative. But, that's a positive for the Sand Springs Police Department, which has been under the umbrella of suspicion for nearly two weeks after an investigation into alleged steroid use by its officers. A month-long investigation resulted in four officers being subjected to drug testing to confirm or disprove the rumors. Today, Sand Springs Police Chief Daniel Bradley says "all of those test results have returned with no presence of steroids." Bradley told NewsChannel 8 earlier this month it was important for the citizens to know their officers are not only upholding the law, but abiding by it as well. "If you leave a rumor untested, it will challenge the integrity of an entity, much less a police department which is challenged with that, to uphold the integrity because we are the civil servants to serve the public," Bradley said. Bradley says he feels confident the department does not have an issue of current steroid use and that it won't be a problem in the future. "In the past, steroids have not been tested for," Bradley said. "We will now include a steroid test for some of our officers each year."
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I'm glad that they were found not to be using steroids, but still I have to wonder and question, did they use something to beat the test? Everyone with any time of type of intelligents knows how to beat a drug test. Hopefully they didn't. And I'm glad to see that they are now going to be regularly testing for steroids.
Sunday, February 24, 2008
North Dakota Deputy Fires Gun in Courthouse Restroom
FARGO, N.D. --
A Cass County Sheriff's deputy who accidentally fired his handgun in a courthouse restroom has been suspended for eight days without pay. Authorities said Dean Wawers, 57, also will receive a written reprimand in personnel file.
No one was hurt when the gun belonging Wawers discharged during lunch hour on Jan. 10.
Fargo police said an investigation determined that his weapon was discharged accidentally.
Authorities said he had hung the gun by its trigger guard, and the gun caught on the hook and discharged into the ceiling when he went to retrieve it.
A Cass County Sheriff's deputy who accidentally fired his handgun in a courthouse restroom has been suspended for eight days without pay. Authorities said Dean Wawers, 57, also will receive a written reprimand in personnel file.
No one was hurt when the gun belonging Wawers discharged during lunch hour on Jan. 10.
Fargo police said an investigation determined that his weapon was discharged accidentally.
Authorities said he had hung the gun by its trigger guard, and the gun caught on the hook and discharged into the ceiling when he went to retrieve it.
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I bet he got the shit scared right out of him.
Friday, February 22, 2008
Another Death from a Taser
Police in Baltimore are in trouble after a man they tased died,the 4th to die in 12 months from being tasered.
Wednesday, February 20, 2008
Woman Beat By Cop In Shreveport While In Custody
A Shreveport police officer has been fired after an incident in which a female prisoner taken into custody on suspicion of DWI wound up lying on a floor at the police station in a pool of blood.
Much of what happened was recorded on a videotape -- but there is a gap of undetermined length. During that time, the woman wound up injured. She said she was beaten up; the officer said she fell.
This typical jackass cop knew what he was doing when he turned off the camera.He had full intentions of hurting that woman. I hope he receives double the time for this crime. When cops get busted for doing things like this, I believe they should recieve more time. Maybe that would stop some of the asshats from doing this kind of things.
If you'd like to voice your opinion to the police dept or internal affairs
Chief of Police Henry Whitehorn Office: (318)673 - 6900
Assistant to the Chief Duane Huddleston Office: (318) 673 - 6908
Internal Affairs Captain Ray Goeckel Office: (318) 673 - 6906
Much of what happened was recorded on a videotape -- but there is a gap of undetermined length. During that time, the woman wound up injured. She said she was beaten up; the officer said she fell.
This typical jackass cop knew what he was doing when he turned off the camera.He had full intentions of hurting that woman. I hope he receives double the time for this crime. When cops get busted for doing things like this, I believe they should recieve more time. Maybe that would stop some of the asshats from doing this kind of things.
If you'd like to voice your opinion to the police dept or internal affairs
Chief of Police Henry Whitehorn Office: (318)673 - 6900
Assistant to the Chief Duane Huddleston Office: (318) 673 - 6908
Internal Affairs Captain Ray Goeckel Office: (318) 673 - 6906
Tuesday, February 19, 2008
Monday, February 18, 2008
Sand Springs Officers Using Steroids
There is an internal investigation regarding steroid use among some police officers at the Sand Springs Police Department.
Channel 2 sat down with Chief Daniel Bradley today who says he had no choice but to look into what he calls a "rumor" he could not ignore.One officer has been suspended with pay, but Bradley says this is a standard procedure and does not mean he is using.
The Sand Springs Police Department has had it's share of responding to emergencies. Now, its responding to an incident of its own.
"We are right in the heart of this investigation," Said Chief Bradley.
Bradley says an officer tipped him off to possible anabolic steroid use among officers employed with the department.
"You have got to run rumors down. Rumors left unchecked, or untested will harm an entity, especially a police department," Bradley Said.
So the investigation began..."The next step was to see if we could find any suspicion. I am not going to use the word truth, just suspicion, and we found some," Said Bradley.
He won't say how many, but will say "some" officers were brought in for testing.While he waits for the results, he touts a solid track record of no grievances filed in 13 years.
"That in and of itself has got to play a big part in the lack of grievances over the years," Said Captain John Mars.He says an open door policy is the best policy.
"When officers have issues that they need to go see the chief about, they have no trouble knocking on his door and going and sitting down with him and discussing things," Said Mars.
No word yet on what will happen to the officers if test results come back positive, but chief Bradley says steroids without a prescription are illegal...and he says he doesn't want to disturb public trust.
"We all share in maintaining integrity in this department and maintaining integrity is not easy," Bradley said.
Chief Bradley says all officers are subject to random drug testing. They are each tested when hired, but steroids is not a drug on the list.
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I think I heard on the news that one officer has been fired, but I couldn't find the story anywhere.
The way some officers act like they are all jacked up on something, and they don't test for steroid use? WTF??? Cops think everyone else should be arrested and checked for drug use, why shouldn't they be subjected to the same?
I've been around a few officers that were more than likely on steroids, but no one ever says anything because they are the law. I have to pat the officer on the back that turned one of his own in...that's a bold thing to do. There needs to be more cops like you around.
Channel 2 sat down with Chief Daniel Bradley today who says he had no choice but to look into what he calls a "rumor" he could not ignore.One officer has been suspended with pay, but Bradley says this is a standard procedure and does not mean he is using.
The Sand Springs Police Department has had it's share of responding to emergencies. Now, its responding to an incident of its own.
"We are right in the heart of this investigation," Said Chief Bradley.
Bradley says an officer tipped him off to possible anabolic steroid use among officers employed with the department.
"You have got to run rumors down. Rumors left unchecked, or untested will harm an entity, especially a police department," Bradley Said.
So the investigation began..."The next step was to see if we could find any suspicion. I am not going to use the word truth, just suspicion, and we found some," Said Bradley.
He won't say how many, but will say "some" officers were brought in for testing.While he waits for the results, he touts a solid track record of no grievances filed in 13 years.
"That in and of itself has got to play a big part in the lack of grievances over the years," Said Captain John Mars.He says an open door policy is the best policy.
"When officers have issues that they need to go see the chief about, they have no trouble knocking on his door and going and sitting down with him and discussing things," Said Mars.
No word yet on what will happen to the officers if test results come back positive, but chief Bradley says steroids without a prescription are illegal...and he says he doesn't want to disturb public trust.
"We all share in maintaining integrity in this department and maintaining integrity is not easy," Bradley said.
Chief Bradley says all officers are subject to random drug testing. They are each tested when hired, but steroids is not a drug on the list.
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I think I heard on the news that one officer has been fired, but I couldn't find the story anywhere.
The way some officers act like they are all jacked up on something, and they don't test for steroid use? WTF??? Cops think everyone else should be arrested and checked for drug use, why shouldn't they be subjected to the same?
I've been around a few officers that were more than likely on steroids, but no one ever says anything because they are the law. I have to pat the officer on the back that turned one of his own in...that's a bold thing to do. There needs to be more cops like you around.
Wednesday, February 13, 2008
Florida Police Dump Quadriplegic Man From His Wheelchair
In Hillsborough County, Florida, police were caught, by their own surveillance cameras, dumping a quadriplegic man from his wheelchair and onto the ground. Apparently they were trying to determine whether or not he actually needed the chair.
Orient Road Jail surveillance footage from Jan. 29 shows veteran deputy Charlette Marshall-Jones, 44, dumping Brian Sterner out of his wheelchair and searching him on the floor after he was brought in on a warrant after a traffic violation.
Sterner, 32, said when he was taken into a booking room and told to stand up, Jones grew agitated when he told her that he could not.
"She was irked that I wasn't complying to what she was telling me to do," he told The Tampa Tribune. "It didn't register with her that she was asking me to do something I can't do."
....As for Sterner, he was arrested at his Riverview home and taken to the jail Jan. 29 on a charge of fleeing and attempting to elude a police officer, according to records. He posted $2,000 bond and was released Feb 3.
A warrant for Sterner's arrest was issued after an Oct. 25 incident, in which Tampa police stopped him in Ybor City. He was stopped while driving a Mini Cooper that had been fitted with hand pedals and was cited for blocking an intersection.
"My client was stopped that night and was given a traffic citation, so how could he be fleeing and eluding?" Sterner's lawyer John Trevena said. "We're very skeptical about the basis for the charge itself."
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The police fuck with people all the time everywhere. This is not unusual. They especially tend to fuck with people they know can't hire a lawyer. This just happened to backfire.I hope this guy sues the hell of out them and wins...But the said part is they will all gang up in their own little gang and say it wasn't their fault, it was the guy who was handicapped.
I hope these ass hats all get fired...especially the guy who laughed about it.
This is sad, and cops wonder why people are afraid of the them. I've heard of children being tasered so many time that I'm sick of it. They said that tasering would only be used in the most dangerous situation. It is used when ever they want to.
Orient Road Jail surveillance footage from Jan. 29 shows veteran deputy Charlette Marshall-Jones, 44, dumping Brian Sterner out of his wheelchair and searching him on the floor after he was brought in on a warrant after a traffic violation.
Sterner, 32, said when he was taken into a booking room and told to stand up, Jones grew agitated when he told her that he could not.
"She was irked that I wasn't complying to what she was telling me to do," he told The Tampa Tribune. "It didn't register with her that she was asking me to do something I can't do."
....As for Sterner, he was arrested at his Riverview home and taken to the jail Jan. 29 on a charge of fleeing and attempting to elude a police officer, according to records. He posted $2,000 bond and was released Feb 3.
A warrant for Sterner's arrest was issued after an Oct. 25 incident, in which Tampa police stopped him in Ybor City. He was stopped while driving a Mini Cooper that had been fitted with hand pedals and was cited for blocking an intersection.
"My client was stopped that night and was given a traffic citation, so how could he be fleeing and eluding?" Sterner's lawyer John Trevena said. "We're very skeptical about the basis for the charge itself."
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The police fuck with people all the time everywhere. This is not unusual. They especially tend to fuck with people they know can't hire a lawyer. This just happened to backfire.I hope this guy sues the hell of out them and wins...But the said part is they will all gang up in their own little gang and say it wasn't their fault, it was the guy who was handicapped.
I hope these ass hats all get fired...especially the guy who laughed about it.
This is sad, and cops wonder why people are afraid of the them. I've heard of children being tasered so many time that I'm sick of it. They said that tasering would only be used in the most dangerous situation. It is used when ever they want to.
Monday, February 11, 2008
Bad Cops
Another Video of cops being wrong. Poor woman. But what people don't know is that this kind of thing happens all the time. Some police think they are above the law, and can do anything they want. It happened to me once. I hope like hell this woman is able to sue the shit of them...and wins!!
Woman Shot, Police Laugh about it
A crowd of Miami storm troopers shot an unarmed woman — twice. Then they joked and laughed about it. They also referred to innocent citizens as “scurrying cockroaches”.
An innocent Ohio woman was non-sexually gang raped by a group of cops and left naked for hours in her cell (AKA “strip searched”).
Honest, good police deserve everyones respect for doing a difficult job. But there is a dangerous trend occurring in this country that only seems to be getting worse. More and more limits are being placed on our civil and Constitutional rights while our police forces are simultaneously becoming more militarized.
Pointless and often brutal police state tactics include the tasing of our fellow citizens at the drop of a hat, which have sometimes resulted in the death of the victims — er, I mean “suspects”. This is nothing less than an instant death penalty of sorts, but without formal charges or a trial. Sadly, these incidents may be only the beginning if this trend continues. If it can happen to these people, it can happen to any of us.
An innocent Ohio woman was non-sexually gang raped by a group of cops and left naked for hours in her cell (AKA “strip searched”).
Honest, good police deserve everyones respect for doing a difficult job. But there is a dangerous trend occurring in this country that only seems to be getting worse. More and more limits are being placed on our civil and Constitutional rights while our police forces are simultaneously becoming more militarized.
Pointless and often brutal police state tactics include the tasing of our fellow citizens at the drop of a hat, which have sometimes resulted in the death of the victims — er, I mean “suspects”. This is nothing less than an instant death penalty of sorts, but without formal charges or a trial. Sadly, these incidents may be only the beginning if this trend continues. If it can happen to these people, it can happen to any of us.
Tuesday, February 05, 2008
The Price of Weed
Several people have been asking me what is the average price for weed, so I thought I would break it down for the people who want to know.
Let’s start off with a DIME bag...$10.00
It will weigh approximately 2 or 3 grams, and will make 2 or 3 joints...depending on the size you make the joint.
Next up a 20 bag...cost $20.00
It will weigh approximately 5 to 6 grams, and will make 5 to 7 joints.
You can also buy a quarter bag...cost $25.00
Weighs approximately 6 to 7 grams, and makes 6 to 8 joints.
Next size normally sold is a half ounce...cost anywhere from $25...to $60...all depends on the quality of the weed to the price you will have to pay.
Weighs 14 grams...and makes around 14 to 20 joints.
For an ounce the cost runs somewhere between $50 to as high as $120...again it all depends on who you are getting it from and the quality of the weed.
Weighs 28 grams...and makes approximately 30 joints...depending on size rolled.
Next is the QP (Quarter Pound) which is 4 ounces and cost from $200 to $300.
Then we have the Pound (16 ounces) ...which will cost any where from $700 to over a $1000 dollars if the stuff is really good.
Hope this information helps...and happy smoking.
Let’s start off with a DIME bag...$10.00
It will weigh approximately 2 or 3 grams, and will make 2 or 3 joints...depending on the size you make the joint.
Next up a 20 bag...cost $20.00
It will weigh approximately 5 to 6 grams, and will make 5 to 7 joints.
You can also buy a quarter bag...cost $25.00
Weighs approximately 6 to 7 grams, and makes 6 to 8 joints.
Next size normally sold is a half ounce...cost anywhere from $25...to $60...all depends on the quality of the weed to the price you will have to pay.
Weighs 14 grams...and makes around 14 to 20 joints.
For an ounce the cost runs somewhere between $50 to as high as $120...again it all depends on who you are getting it from and the quality of the weed.
Weighs 28 grams...and makes approximately 30 joints...depending on size rolled.
Next is the QP (Quarter Pound) which is 4 ounces and cost from $200 to $300.
Then we have the Pound (16 ounces) ...which will cost any where from $700 to over a $1000 dollars if the stuff is really good.
Hope this information helps...and happy smoking.
Friday, February 01, 2008
Tasers for Cops...Unneccessary!!!
Full story and pics....
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/769398,CST-NWS-taser31.article
'LESS THAN LETHAL' | Maker says they're safe, but a county study finds they can cause heart rhythm problems -- even death
January 31, 2008
BY FRANK MAIN AND FRAN SPIELMAN Staff Reporters/fmain@suntimes.com fspielman@suntimes.com
Tasers could soon become standard equipment for Chicago Police beat cops as a "less than lethal" alternative to guns, but a Cook County study has found the electric-shock weapons can trigger heart rhythm problems -- and even death.
The city is seeking bids for 2,500 tasers, far beyond the 350 now in use by the department. The department also is considering putting cameras on Tasers to record how the weapon was used.
Tasers are not cheap. Some departments have spent as much as $1,000 per weapon.
The pistol-like weapons expel two darts connected to 35-foot-long wires. The barbs deliver an immobilizing 50,000-volt shock.
"We view them as a less-than-lethal option," police spokeswoman Monique Bond said of the department's Tasers, which were discharged 181 times in 2006.
But Dr. Andrew Dennis, a Stroger Hospital trauma surgeon and part-time Des Plaines police officer, warned that Tasers can kill.
He was part of a team in the Cook County trauma unit that studied pigs over the last two years. In one test, 11 pigs were hit with 40-second electrical bursts. After a 10-second delay, they were zapped again for 40 seconds. The bursts caused "significant rhythm problems," and two pigs died of ventricular fibrillation, Dennis said. Other tests showed the barbs' location can affect the heart's rhythm, he said.
"I am not anti-Taser," he said. "However, I think the device does have the potential for lethality."
Dennis said officers often are trained "that it cannot hurt anyone, and that's not true."
"I think the potential for harm is small, but it does exist. In no way, shape or form do I think Tasers should come off the market, but education should be modified so officers are trained for the potential risk," he said
Officers should have access to automated external defibrillators in case a suspect goes into cardiac arrest because of a Taser, Dennis said.
A Taser International spokesman said the firm questions the way the study was conducted and pointed to other studies on humans that did not find a link between Tasers and heart problems. Dennis, in turn, questioned the independence and methods of those studies.In 2005, the Cook County medical examiner's office ruled that Ronald Hasse, 54, died following the use of a Taser. A Chicago Police sergeant used the device to subdue Hasse, who was unruly and high on methamphetamine, officials said.
Electrocution was the primary cause of death, and drugs were a contributing factor, the autopsy found.
Taser International, which counts former Chicago Police Supt. Terry Hillard as a consultant, disputed the autopsy.
The Chicago Police Department suspended the distribution of more Tasers after Hasse's death, but the ban was lifted after the department deemed them safe.
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How in the hell can they say tasers are safe???
Cops are killing people just because they are too fucking lazy to get off their donut eating asses and chase someone who is trying to run or resist.
Come on motherfuckers...you(police) are in shape...at least most of you are now days... you shouldn't have that much of a problem taking down someone who is drunk, old, or out of shape.
I think they should ban the tasers along with guns...do away with them and go back to fighting with sticks...no body dies that way.
There has to be a better way...what about using a more mild form of the taser? Less volts???
It's just boys wanting more toys.
Here is what a police officer on another board had to say...."Holy crap, 40 seconds, x2??? Damn skippy a couple of them died. It's the difference between a couple of well placed strikes to subdue someone, and beating them half to death. Morons!"
Okay so you tell me that in the heat of an adrenaline rush this cop is going to be able to hit someone in the right place???? Oh come on you morons...you can't hit a subject in the leg with a gun, so how are you going to make sure you hit them with a taser in the RIGHT place? Not going to happen. Plus tell the truth...most cops go to work everyday hoping they get a chance to taser or even shoot someone...Police live for the moment.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/769398,CST-NWS-taser31.article
'LESS THAN LETHAL' | Maker says they're safe, but a county study finds they can cause heart rhythm problems -- even death
January 31, 2008
BY FRANK MAIN AND FRAN SPIELMAN Staff Reporters/fmain@suntimes.com fspielman@suntimes.com
Tasers could soon become standard equipment for Chicago Police beat cops as a "less than lethal" alternative to guns, but a Cook County study has found the electric-shock weapons can trigger heart rhythm problems -- and even death.
The city is seeking bids for 2,500 tasers, far beyond the 350 now in use by the department. The department also is considering putting cameras on Tasers to record how the weapon was used.
Tasers are not cheap. Some departments have spent as much as $1,000 per weapon.
The pistol-like weapons expel two darts connected to 35-foot-long wires. The barbs deliver an immobilizing 50,000-volt shock.
"We view them as a less-than-lethal option," police spokeswoman Monique Bond said of the department's Tasers, which were discharged 181 times in 2006.
But Dr. Andrew Dennis, a Stroger Hospital trauma surgeon and part-time Des Plaines police officer, warned that Tasers can kill.
He was part of a team in the Cook County trauma unit that studied pigs over the last two years. In one test, 11 pigs were hit with 40-second electrical bursts. After a 10-second delay, they were zapped again for 40 seconds. The bursts caused "significant rhythm problems," and two pigs died of ventricular fibrillation, Dennis said. Other tests showed the barbs' location can affect the heart's rhythm, he said.
"I am not anti-Taser," he said. "However, I think the device does have the potential for lethality."
Dennis said officers often are trained "that it cannot hurt anyone, and that's not true."
"I think the potential for harm is small, but it does exist. In no way, shape or form do I think Tasers should come off the market, but education should be modified so officers are trained for the potential risk," he said
Officers should have access to automated external defibrillators in case a suspect goes into cardiac arrest because of a Taser, Dennis said.
A Taser International spokesman said the firm questions the way the study was conducted and pointed to other studies on humans that did not find a link between Tasers and heart problems. Dennis, in turn, questioned the independence and methods of those studies.In 2005, the Cook County medical examiner's office ruled that Ronald Hasse, 54, died following the use of a Taser. A Chicago Police sergeant used the device to subdue Hasse, who was unruly and high on methamphetamine, officials said.
Electrocution was the primary cause of death, and drugs were a contributing factor, the autopsy found.
Taser International, which counts former Chicago Police Supt. Terry Hillard as a consultant, disputed the autopsy.
The Chicago Police Department suspended the distribution of more Tasers after Hasse's death, but the ban was lifted after the department deemed them safe.
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How in the hell can they say tasers are safe???
Cops are killing people just because they are too fucking lazy to get off their donut eating asses and chase someone who is trying to run or resist.
Come on motherfuckers...you(police) are in shape...at least most of you are now days... you shouldn't have that much of a problem taking down someone who is drunk, old, or out of shape.
I think they should ban the tasers along with guns...do away with them and go back to fighting with sticks...no body dies that way.
There has to be a better way...what about using a more mild form of the taser? Less volts???
It's just boys wanting more toys.
Here is what a police officer on another board had to say...."Holy crap, 40 seconds, x2??? Damn skippy a couple of them died. It's the difference between a couple of well placed strikes to subdue someone, and beating them half to death. Morons!"
Okay so you tell me that in the heat of an adrenaline rush this cop is going to be able to hit someone in the right place???? Oh come on you morons...you can't hit a subject in the leg with a gun, so how are you going to make sure you hit them with a taser in the RIGHT place? Not going to happen. Plus tell the truth...most cops go to work everyday hoping they get a chance to taser or even shoot someone...Police live for the moment.
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